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September 5, 2005 12:03 AM

Broken: Liverpool FC sign

Istanbul39Paul P writes that "after this Champions League Final (Liverpool FC won AC Milan), they sure need a better banner to display their hard-earned glory."

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Howdy!

FIRST!

England Is Good!

Posted by: Seth Nelson at September 5, 2005 12:23 AM

someone spent a little too much time playing, and not quite enough time at school. id love to see this on one of their resumes. King's forever!

Posted by: valek at September 5, 2005 12:32 AM

Not to mention somebody who can spell. There should be no apostrophe in "kings" here.

Posted by: Steven at September 5, 2005 01:54 AM

im sorry, but i cant see whats wrong with this

Posted by: kip at September 5, 2005 05:21 AM

Thats a banner made by an individual, not the club itself. For some reason it's a sort of tradition that Liverpool supporters really spend a lot of effort creating banners and signs to take to matches/hang outside pubs.

Still broken, but not really special - the "greengrocer's apostrophe" is a really common error.

Posted by: bn at September 5, 2005 05:59 AM

That apostrophe thing is running rampant. The other day I came across comments in a blog and the person had written something like, "I have far too many hats."

They then wrote another comment to "correct" themselves and wrote, "I meant 'hat's'."

GAH!

Posted by: Faolan at September 5, 2005 12:22 PM

re: kip

"im sorry, but i cant see whats wrong with this"

That's because you have a similar problem with punctuation. Your comment should be: "I'm sorry, but I can't see what's wrong with this."

"King's of Europe" should be "Kings of Europe".

And, um.. bn... it's "That's a banner..." ;)

Posted by: anitsirK at September 5, 2005 12:58 PM

Tee-hee! Fun with apostrophe's!

"If you want it to be possesive then it's just I-T-S, and if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's I-T-apostrophe-S"

It's a grammatical song.

Posted by: Bob at September 5, 2005 04:04 PM

i live in usa soooo i have no idea wutsoever y thats funny -.- .......... @(- -)@

Posted by: NICK at September 5, 2005 06:22 PM

It has nothing to do with "living in the us". It has to do with being literate in English. The apostrophe shouldn't be there.

It's funny because they're stupid.

Posted by: hello wake up at September 5, 2005 07:24 PM

The grocer's apostrophe is indeed extremely common in the UK and I think has entered the vernacular. I wouldn't be surprised if those making the banner were perfectly aware of it.

Posted by: J. Scott at September 5, 2005 11:45 PM

Bob: You quoting Strongbad?

Posted by: Tim at September 6, 2005 09:00 AM

i certainly am! great jorb!

Posted by: BoB at September 6, 2005 10:53 AM

Eats, shoots and leaves...

Posted by: Sean at September 6, 2005 11:18 AM

Why is it call the "grocer's apostrophe?" If the answer is no better than "it's the way it appears at the supermarket," I feel cheated.

That sign would be even better if it had some superfluous quotation marks.

"Liverpool 'F.C.'"

'King's' of "Europe"

Now it's perfect.

Posted by: Tom at September 6, 2005 11:49 AM

English is not my first language and I immediately caught the error. How sad is to see that people can't spell correctly...

What is really broken is the schools and education system that are unable to teach people to write and spell correctly even simple words and senetences.

Posted by: SAM at September 6, 2005 01:45 PM

I won't lay an additional beating on the apostrophe dead horse. But there is another delicious irony in the post that criticizes grammar.

"Liverpool FC won AC Milan" - they won the team? So now AC Milan belongs to Liverpool FC?

Posted by: Pat at September 6, 2005 02:30 PM

"Sean" That's in the deninition of "panda" in a well known dictionary isn't it?

Posted by: Sean P at September 6, 2005 02:41 PM

Reminds me of my all-time most hated ad:

"You've got questions? We've got answers!"

(You have got questions? We have got answers!)

Why not just proper english?

"You have questions?" "We have answers!"

Our language is being massacred, even by advertising firms & people who appparently didn't study (or pass) English.

Posted by: Onery at September 6, 2005 03:29 PM

http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.jpg

Posted by: Stewart Peterson at September 6, 2005 04:59 PM

I think the problem is not just that advertising types don't learn english; it's that they then teach kids the wrong way to spell and puncuate. More funding to Public Schools!

Posted by: Sido at September 6, 2005 07:49 PM

"How sad is to see that people can't spell correctly..."

what's spelled wrong?

Posted by: bum at September 7, 2005 07:03 PM

My God, Sido! I hope you're kidding on the more-funding part! Public school English classes are the ones that don't teach you anything! Every public English class i have ever been in has been exactly the same, from first through twelfth. What we need is actual English being taught, then and only then should we consider increasing spending, of all things.

Posted by: Bob at September 7, 2005 07:10 PM

Yes, you are right PAT, I must've been too excited while writing an email to this site; of course it is improper to say "LFC won ACM," it should say "LFC beat ACM." And I always thought I was so grammatically accurate..... I felt so stupid while reading this....

Posted by: Paul P at September 7, 2005 08:14 PM

I cant see whats wrong this at all. Its looking good to me. It's makers was not stupid.

Posted by: Badsp Eller at September 7, 2005 09:59 PM

Thank you bob. english should be an elective after 5th grade (by which point if u cant read and write already, ur screwed, and if u can, u dont need english class now do u). why are there standardized tests for FICTION WRITING???? (that means not real, for all you public school veterans/victims) why have schools stopped teaching life skills, and started training a generation of jeapordy players? dont give more cash, take cash away from useless classes, use it to hire good teachers, to hire someone to come up with a useful curriculum, to hire some trustworthy students to point out the teachers who do nothing until their superior shows up. and use some leftover change to print up student surveys, along the lines of "do u think learning poetry and shakespeare in english class will help you succeed in life and get a good job?"

Posted by: gmangw at September 8, 2005 12:24 AM

onery, leave the radioshack ad out of this. you're wrong anyhow, because the ad is "you've got questions." with a period. they're TELLING you that "you have got questions", not asking if you do. maybe you'd consider the fact that they're expecting so many confused consumers to be broken, but the grammer in the ad ISN'T.

sorry, had to get that out.

Posted by: pupples at September 9, 2005 12:15 AM

"It's makers was not stupid"

LOL

Posted by: bob at September 9, 2005 08:29 PM

And also:

"but the grammer in the ad ISN'T"

Posted by: bob at September 9, 2005 08:30 PM

Bob, pupples did remember the apostrophe and the apostrophe was acceptable. It is hard to see because the capital T blends in with it ('T = ' T), and isn't is a contraction, where apostrophes are necessary.

(I know you know one of those, but I wanted to be sure I covered your problem.)

Posted by: Kevin at September 10, 2005 11:10 PM

I think everyone (especially the creator of this banner) should take a look at:

http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/

Posted by: Nigel Pond at September 12, 2005 01:14 PM

Hmm... I have an unlikely scenario:

Maybe the team is sponsored by a "King's of Europe",King being the name of the owner.Not likely , but the only way of making this sign make sense.

Posted by: Bill at September 30, 2005 06:06 AM

was gonna get on Bob's case at 1st read of the word twelfth.

Looked it up and that's the correct spelling.

So.... in our "Rules with Exceptions" English, how is it that the spelling TWELVE becomes TWELFTH ?

(The more you say it, the more difficult to enunciate, ya know)

Posted by: gatz at September 30, 2005 07:40 PM

I myself am in public school (9th grade) and can testify to how horribly usless the English classes are. I mean, how the heck is memorizing all 54 prepositions going to help anyone getting a job! Please, someone give me a good reason why, I dare you.

Posted by: Bedlamite at December 8, 2005 05:25 PM

WOW....kip, and NICK, you both are truly retarded. I do not understand how you people STILL can't figure out what is wrong with this when it was explained before both of your comments. Please, let's graduate from second grade and learn to read. Thank you, come again.

Posted by: MB at March 22, 2006 01:09 AM

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